According to FOXSports.com , Brett Favre is now a Jet. Jay Glazer is saying there are no compensation details yet but rumor earlier was a 3rd with escalations to a 1st depending on the Jets and Favre's performances.
More when I have it.
But bump up the Jets offense considerably if it's true....
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Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Wednesday Morning Stampede
So FAVREWATCH 2008 is far from over, but we knew that would be the case.
All that and some running back news below for the Morning Stampede...
Green Bay Packers
As was reported yesterday, Favre is probably close to being traded and soon. Both the Jets and Bucs are allegedly interested - the Tampa Tribune says Favre will be a Buc be days end, with Brian Griese heading to Wisconsin to back up Aaron Rodgers (which as I wrote last night, only made sense). Not so fast says Jay Glazer of FoxSports - the NY Jets have offered a much better trade package. Apparently, Favre currently prefers the Bucs, though he is talking to the Jets, and supposedly feels that the Packers are asking too much from the Bucs just because they are a NFC team.
I think this will clear up by Friday, maybe before, but it continues to be somewhat ugly between the Pack and their once favored son.
Both the Bucs and Jets would be good, not great fits, for Favre and neither is a Super Bowl contender though the Bucs seem closer on the surface. Favre may help them make a run while he merely makes the Jets an 8-8 team with Wild Card aspirations. That's not a slam on Favre - the Jets are just farther away. But you never know.
Either team would put Favre back on the Fantasy radar and make him - at the very least - a #2 QB.
Chicago Bears
Kevin Jones is definitely healing well and while he might still open the season on the PUP list, he is supposedly running close to full speed. He's been in pads, though sporting a heavy knee brace. It's the brace that reminds you he is still coming back from a nagging injury and is a guy who the Bears probably picked up more for later in the season. Jones could be a pick during the last half or third of your draft, but you shouldn't draft him for anything but bench depth. Matt Forte is still the starter and will be for some time, barring him struggling mightily.
San Francisco 49rs
Frank Gore could have a huge season if he is involved in the pass game the way I (and others) suspect he might, yet I still see him slipping late in the 1st round of drafts. Gore has worked hard to get into better shape, including dropping wieght. With the concerns for just about every running back pick after #3 (Westbrook or Peterson, depending on who you ask), Gore is someone to look at closely and consider for your #1 back.
Most of the 49rs have a long way to go to prove themselves fantasy worthy and Gore could still face 8 man fronts if Martz's offense struggles. But Gore has faced them before and done well. Dropping the weight and getting into better shape will hopefully keep him healthier and get rid of nagging injuries that have plagued him for his career.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Just when we thought Fast Willie Parker had lost his goal line touches for good with the drafting of Rashard Mendenhall - not so fast. According to HC Mike Tomlin (by way of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ), Parker is once again under consideration for goal line duties. Now, I need to look into this but this may be a sign Mendenhall is struggling a little in camp. I'll see what I can find out. Parker will get you the yards - but his touchdowns were completely absent last year and it killed his owners. If he can get even a few more goal line touches, it would really help his value to you. I have been, and still do, assume that the rookie Mendenhall will get a ton of short yardage looks, including in the red zone. Parker hasn't got the size for it and concern still is he might wear down. But he has been effective on occasion and could be again if the offensive line is back on it's game. That was the biggest problem last year - the Ol-ine struggled as much as he did.
He's your rock solid RB2 - with a ton of upside if this plays out.
That's all for now - more later.
All that and some running back news below for the Morning Stampede...
Green Bay Packers
As was reported yesterday, Favre is probably close to being traded and soon. Both the Jets and Bucs are allegedly interested - the Tampa Tribune says Favre will be a Buc be days end, with Brian Griese heading to Wisconsin to back up Aaron Rodgers (which as I wrote last night, only made sense). Not so fast says Jay Glazer of FoxSports - the NY Jets have offered a much better trade package. Apparently, Favre currently prefers the Bucs, though he is talking to the Jets, and supposedly feels that the Packers are asking too much from the Bucs just because they are a NFC team.
I think this will clear up by Friday, maybe before, but it continues to be somewhat ugly between the Pack and their once favored son.
Both the Bucs and Jets would be good, not great fits, for Favre and neither is a Super Bowl contender though the Bucs seem closer on the surface. Favre may help them make a run while he merely makes the Jets an 8-8 team with Wild Card aspirations. That's not a slam on Favre - the Jets are just farther away. But you never know.
Either team would put Favre back on the Fantasy radar and make him - at the very least - a #2 QB.
Chicago Bears
Kevin Jones is definitely healing well and while he might still open the season on the PUP list, he is supposedly running close to full speed. He's been in pads, though sporting a heavy knee brace. It's the brace that reminds you he is still coming back from a nagging injury and is a guy who the Bears probably picked up more for later in the season. Jones could be a pick during the last half or third of your draft, but you shouldn't draft him for anything but bench depth. Matt Forte is still the starter and will be for some time, barring him struggling mightily.
San Francisco 49rs
Frank Gore could have a huge season if he is involved in the pass game the way I (and others) suspect he might, yet I still see him slipping late in the 1st round of drafts. Gore has worked hard to get into better shape, including dropping wieght. With the concerns for just about every running back pick after #3 (Westbrook or Peterson, depending on who you ask), Gore is someone to look at closely and consider for your #1 back.
Most of the 49rs have a long way to go to prove themselves fantasy worthy and Gore could still face 8 man fronts if Martz's offense struggles. But Gore has faced them before and done well. Dropping the weight and getting into better shape will hopefully keep him healthier and get rid of nagging injuries that have plagued him for his career.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Just when we thought Fast Willie Parker had lost his goal line touches for good with the drafting of Rashard Mendenhall - not so fast. According to HC Mike Tomlin (by way of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ), Parker is once again under consideration for goal line duties. Now, I need to look into this but this may be a sign Mendenhall is struggling a little in camp. I'll see what I can find out. Parker will get you the yards - but his touchdowns were completely absent last year and it killed his owners. If he can get even a few more goal line touches, it would really help his value to you. I have been, and still do, assume that the rookie Mendenhall will get a ton of short yardage looks, including in the red zone. Parker hasn't got the size for it and concern still is he might wear down. But he has been effective on occasion and could be again if the offensive line is back on it's game. That was the biggest problem last year - the Ol-ine struggled as much as he did.
He's your rock solid RB2 - with a ton of upside if this plays out.
That's all for now - more later.
Tuesday, August 5, 2008
Favre to Bucs - Garcia to Packers?
Hey guys
In case you were asleep, Adam Shefter says the Packers have placed Favre on the declared non-injury inactive list and told him once and for all - no, you cannot get your release. They are talking to the Bucs and Favre is thinking it over. And of course we have talked about what this could mean for Favre and the Bucs - but what about a wrinkle?
Could Garcia be a part going back to the Pack?
Let's face it, the Pack has very shaky QB depth behind Rodgers who has a bit of an injury history. They need a veteran back-up and I was shocked they didn't pursue one. So why not?
Well, Garcia still thinks he can start. He can. too. Maybe he can gamble that Rodgers will not work out or get hurt, but I doubt he'd be happy. On the other hand - well rotoworld put it better than I ever could -
But anyway, I thought it an interesting notion. Jets are also getting mentioned a lot on NFL Total Access.
In case you were asleep, Adam Shefter says the Packers have placed Favre on the declared non-injury inactive list and told him once and for all - no, you cannot get your release. They are talking to the Bucs and Favre is thinking it over. And of course we have talked about what this could mean for Favre and the Bucs - but what about a wrinkle?
Could Garcia be a part going back to the Pack?
Let's face it, the Pack has very shaky QB depth behind Rodgers who has a bit of an injury history. They need a veteran back-up and I was shocked they didn't pursue one. So why not?
Well, Garcia still thinks he can start. He can. too. Maybe he can gamble that Rodgers will not work out or get hurt, but I doubt he'd be happy. On the other hand - well rotoworld put it better than I ever could -
....and Jeff Garcia would certainly throw a hissy fit to be remembered.I think Garcia could do well in Green Bay but he may not go. I would think Brian Griese or Chris Simms will be more likely.
But anyway, I thought it an interesting notion. Jets are also getting mentioned a lot on NFL Total Access.
Sunday, August 3, 2008
Late Sunday Week Primer
Hey guys
Hope you had a good weekend - between some computer issues and the imminent kickoff of both college football and pro football seasons, the Blurb was quiet this weekend for the most part.
Here is a quick look at what's on tap, then a brief weekend update for you:
This week we'll have much more Training Camp news as well as the beginnings of some college discussion. Both The Thundering Blurb Podcast and The Drive Block will of course be in full effect. And I am hoping to have at least my top 10 college rankings by Friday. That and Friday night/Saturday morning I hope to have delivered some on the spot Cowboys camp news as well.
So as always pretty quiet.
Here's the weekend update:
Carolina Panthers
The Panthers have suspended wide receiver Steve Smith for 2 regular season games for his altercation with Ken Lucas, and it will be interesting to see how hard he drops in drafts. Hopes were high for him in the Fantasy community but there is no way you can draft him where he was going, often as people's #1 wr. And now you know why we tell you a draft prior to preseason games is a bad idea.
However, if he drops long enough for you to grab him as a #2 and you can grab some good filler guys to back him up, he should be very productive after he gets back in the groove by week 3. So play up his suspension in your leagues and see if you can snag him as he tumbles hard. Overall he should be much better than last year, but you also have to worry about how he reacts to this.
Denver Broncos
Brandon Marshall has received his punishment from the league and it's about where I thought it would be - I said 4, reduced to 2, and it's 3, likely to be reduced to 2. Marshall is another guy who may tumble hard come your draft day and this will, like Smith, keep him from being someone you can grab as a #1 but might drop enough for you to grab later after you have a good #1, a good Rb and another guy in either category. When he comes back, Cutler will be very happy to see him and target him often.
Kansas City Chiefs
This might be irrelevant depending upon how you view the pass game in KC, but rookie Will Franklin has apparently passed by Maurice Price and Jeff Webb. Devard Darling is all that stands between him and starts, so consider a late flier on him - though if pickings are better elsewhere, remember the KC pass game will likely top out at 'meh' with sprinklings of 'yuck'.
And brace yourselves -
Green Bay
Favre arrives in camp Monday. He was reinstated today after the Hall of Fame festivities were done with. It looks liek the competition is on and Aaron Rodgers took to the fight with 7-of-20 passes for 84 yards, no touchdowns, and one interception at the Packers' Fan Fest scrimmage Sunday night. Yeah, that's not a great start to this is it? Oh and the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel saying that the Pack called the Vikings about Favre being available in trade - and I still say if that happens then Ted Thompson might as well sign his letter of resignation. The two times Favre would lead the Vikes against the Pack would do it for him, if he wouldn't. But man, wouldn't that make Bernard Berrian and Sidney Rice owners happy?
More tomorrow throughout the day as we continue spinning Training Camp and the NFL for you every single day.
ps- just watched the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford - and I have rarely been so perplexed by a flick.
Hope you had a good weekend - between some computer issues and the imminent kickoff of both college football and pro football seasons, the Blurb was quiet this weekend for the most part.
Here is a quick look at what's on tap, then a brief weekend update for you:
This week we'll have much more Training Camp news as well as the beginnings of some college discussion. Both The Thundering Blurb Podcast and The Drive Block will of course be in full effect. And I am hoping to have at least my top 10 college rankings by Friday. That and Friday night/Saturday morning I hope to have delivered some on the spot Cowboys camp news as well.
So as always pretty quiet.
Here's the weekend update:
Carolina Panthers
The Panthers have suspended wide receiver Steve Smith for 2 regular season games for his altercation with Ken Lucas, and it will be interesting to see how hard he drops in drafts. Hopes were high for him in the Fantasy community but there is no way you can draft him where he was going, often as people's #1 wr. And now you know why we tell you a draft prior to preseason games is a bad idea.
However, if he drops long enough for you to grab him as a #2 and you can grab some good filler guys to back him up, he should be very productive after he gets back in the groove by week 3. So play up his suspension in your leagues and see if you can snag him as he tumbles hard. Overall he should be much better than last year, but you also have to worry about how he reacts to this.
Denver Broncos
Brandon Marshall has received his punishment from the league and it's about where I thought it would be - I said 4, reduced to 2, and it's 3, likely to be reduced to 2. Marshall is another guy who may tumble hard come your draft day and this will, like Smith, keep him from being someone you can grab as a #1 but might drop enough for you to grab later after you have a good #1, a good Rb and another guy in either category. When he comes back, Cutler will be very happy to see him and target him often.
Kansas City Chiefs
This might be irrelevant depending upon how you view the pass game in KC, but rookie Will Franklin has apparently passed by Maurice Price and Jeff Webb. Devard Darling is all that stands between him and starts, so consider a late flier on him - though if pickings are better elsewhere, remember the KC pass game will likely top out at 'meh' with sprinklings of 'yuck'.
And brace yourselves -
Green Bay
Favre arrives in camp Monday. He was reinstated today after the Hall of Fame festivities were done with. It looks liek the competition is on and Aaron Rodgers took to the fight with 7-of-20 passes for 84 yards, no touchdowns, and one interception at the Packers' Fan Fest scrimmage Sunday night. Yeah, that's not a great start to this is it? Oh and the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel saying that the Pack called the Vikings about Favre being available in trade - and I still say if that happens then Ted Thompson might as well sign his letter of resignation. The two times Favre would lead the Vikes against the Pack would do it for him, if he wouldn't. But man, wouldn't that make Bernard Berrian and Sidney Rice owners happy?
More tomorrow throughout the day as we continue spinning Training Camp and the NFL for you every single day.
ps- just watched the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford - and I have rarely been so perplexed by a flick.
Friday, August 1, 2008
An interesting Favre thought
So, Goodell isn't reinstating him today. So no Brett this weekend. Packers get to breathe a bit and allegedly have a chance to move things forward with Favre - be it the package or convincing him to agree to a trade or whatever.
Here's an interesting thing though. Because while I think Favre has really misplayed this top to bottom (although he isn't alone of course), he faxed his papers in what - four days ago?
Does anyone find it interesting that the NFL delayed reinstating him until after this weekend - until after the Hall of Fame induction?
That's a savvy group. Why risk having Favre show up to camp during a huge weekend for the League?
Interesting thought huh? Just conjecture of course, but seems off to me.
Here's an interesting thing though. Because while I think Favre has really misplayed this top to bottom (although he isn't alone of course), he faxed his papers in what - four days ago?
Does anyone find it interesting that the NFL delayed reinstating him until after this weekend - until after the Hall of Fame induction?
That's a savvy group. Why risk having Favre show up to camp during a huge weekend for the League?
Interesting thought huh? Just conjecture of course, but seems off to me.
Favre rejects Jets, decides to be sourpuss
I'm not saying this as a Jets fan, though you might write it off as sour grapes on my part. Could that be part of it? Maybe. But I think really that I have just had enough of the Favre thing.
'All I want to do is play football,' he says. 'Why don't you all understand?' he pleads. 'The Packers don't want me, then I need to be released so I can find someone who DOES,'he cries.
Unless of course a team who wants him is the Bucs. Or the Jets. Or rather a team not the Vikings.
Enough Brett. Just stop. It's done.
I thought the Pack made a huge misstep when they offered him $20 mill to just go away. I was pretty disappointed and was finally of the mindset that they were being beyond ridiculous.
Maybe Favre was in the right.
But the fact is, Favre only wants one of two things:
To play in Green Bay and be in charge.
Or to play for the Vikings and stick it to Green Bay twice next year. The old 'I told ya so' with a little extra lemon thrown in.
I believed (past tense) Favre wanted to play above all else. I understood not going to the Dolphins. Or Kansas City. Heck, at heart I get not wanting to play for the Jets if he thinks the O-line has too many issues still.
But the statements he made today confirm he just wants to be right. It isn't about football for Favre, not if he can say this to ESPN:
That's not passion. That's just bitter.
Maybe he has a right to be. But he'll get no more sympathy from me (not that he's gotten a ton, in honesty).
Green Bay has not acted well and has been responsible for a lot of this mess.
But every time they do something that puts me in Favre's camp - amazingly, he finds a way to make me lose sympathy for him.
I can only hope Favre comes to his senses and finds a way to play - after all this drama, after all the times he told us how much he missed it, it would be a waste not to.
Find a way to get traded to another team, Favre. If not the Jets, fine. But don;t get caught up so much in the bitter fued between you and Ted Thompson that you forget why you started this disaster in the first place.
/soapbox
Back with more actual news later.
'All I want to do is play football,' he says. 'Why don't you all understand?' he pleads. 'The Packers don't want me, then I need to be released so I can find someone who DOES,'he cries.
Unless of course a team who wants him is the Bucs. Or the Jets. Or rather a team not the Vikings.
Enough Brett. Just stop. It's done.
I thought the Pack made a huge misstep when they offered him $20 mill to just go away. I was pretty disappointed and was finally of the mindset that they were being beyond ridiculous.
Maybe Favre was in the right.
But the fact is, Favre only wants one of two things:
To play in Green Bay and be in charge.
Or to play for the Vikings and stick it to Green Bay twice next year. The old 'I told ya so' with a little extra lemon thrown in.
I believed (past tense) Favre wanted to play above all else. I understood not going to the Dolphins. Or Kansas City. Heck, at heart I get not wanting to play for the Jets if he thinks the O-line has too many issues still.
But the statements he made today confirm he just wants to be right. It isn't about football for Favre, not if he can say this to ESPN:
"My intentions have been to play, and with Green Bay. They say no, so I still want to play in this division for obvious reasons, which I made clear to management. If they won’t let me play in Green Bay, let me play against you. That’s where I am."If they won;t let him play in Green Bay (and I do think he gives them a chance at a Super Bowl that Rodgers doesn't) he wants to stick it to them twice a year.
That's not passion. That's just bitter.
Maybe he has a right to be. But he'll get no more sympathy from me (not that he's gotten a ton, in honesty).
Green Bay has not acted well and has been responsible for a lot of this mess.
But every time they do something that puts me in Favre's camp - amazingly, he finds a way to make me lose sympathy for him.
I can only hope Favre comes to his senses and finds a way to play - after all this drama, after all the times he told us how much he missed it, it would be a waste not to.
Find a way to get traded to another team, Favre. If not the Jets, fine. But don;t get caught up so much in the bitter fued between you and Ted Thompson that you forget why you started this disaster in the first place.
/soapbox
Back with more actual news later.
Thursday, July 31, 2008
FAVREWATCH 2008 Continues
Getting ready for the Drive Block (@7 minutes off) but wanted to hit this -
From the Green Bay Press-Gazette: The Packers are in 'serious negotiations' with the Jets for a trade. Win Win - Bus Cooke has spoken with Gang Green so Favre might be ok with the trade.
We'll talk about this on The Block, but I think this could be the reason Favre didn't fly to Green Bay today. He might have known he needed to go East.
Stay tuned - more later. But I think the Jets would benefit, Clemens would get 2 more years (maybe?) to learn from a Pro Bowler (as would 3rd string Ainge, BTW) and ultimately the Jets would get a good QB who could make a huge difference NOW - which with the money they spent, is what they want. Win now.
And as I said, Favre wins too - he gets a chance to start which is what he wanted.
Win-win.
we'll see.
Tune into the Drive Block - or call (347) 826-7620 and join in!
From the Green Bay Press-Gazette: The Packers are in 'serious negotiations' with the Jets for a trade. Win Win - Bus Cooke has spoken with Gang Green so Favre might be ok with the trade.
We'll talk about this on The Block, but I think this could be the reason Favre didn't fly to Green Bay today. He might have known he needed to go East.
Stay tuned - more later. But I think the Jets would benefit, Clemens would get 2 more years (maybe?) to learn from a Pro Bowler (as would 3rd string Ainge, BTW) and ultimately the Jets would get a good QB who could make a huge difference NOW - which with the money they spent, is what they want. Win now.
And as I said, Favre wins too - he gets a chance to start which is what he wanted.
Win-win.
we'll see.
Tune into the Drive Block - or call (347) 826-7620 and join in!
Jeff Garcia Hurt
Just saw this item at TampaBay.com.
Looks like self-proclaimed 'I am the starting quarterback' Jeff Garcia is pranged up.
We don't know how serious - if at all - it is right now but if he's even kinda hurt.....
How bad would the Bucs want Favre?
I think Gruden would do everything he could to get the soon-to-be-ex-Packer. Something will happen and it looks liek the Pack is talking or considering talking to the Bears or Vikings. If the Bucs made a strong offer, the Packers would probably try to move him there to avoid the nightmare of a trade within the division...
I'll report back on more as I hear it.....
Looks like self-proclaimed 'I am the starting quarterback' Jeff Garcia is pranged up.
We don't know how serious - if at all - it is right now but if he's even kinda hurt.....
How bad would the Bucs want Favre?
I think Gruden would do everything he could to get the soon-to-be-ex-Packer. Something will happen and it looks liek the Pack is talking or considering talking to the Bears or Vikings. If the Bucs made a strong offer, the Packers would probably try to move him there to avoid the nightmare of a trade within the division...
I'll report back on more as I hear it.....
Morning Favrewatch 2008 report
Hey folks -
We stand upon the edge of the the Favre/Green Bay/Training Camp Hurricane and the news out of Green Bay just gets weirder.
Now I have been largely on the Pack's side - I think frankly both sides have behaved poorly but I really felt that the way Favre has handled it has been worse. And that may still hold true, really. I still feel like he has been acting like a prima dona.
All that said, if this report by the Green Bay Press Gazette is true, then they may be more insane than I gave them credit for.
I get they don't want Favre back. But they also held a lot - maybe not all but MOST - of the cards in this thing, especially from a PR standpoint. But to send Mark Murphy to buy Favre off? You're that desperate? Jeez guys.
Go and talk him into working a trade to a team both of you can be happy with. Go and talk to him about being #2 quarterback in camp (which allegedly they did). Explain to him why he is crazy to think you'll release him to play for a Division rival (something he darn well knows, but just doesn't care about). get that list of teams he wants to go to. Show him yours. Compromise. Buy him lunch and repair that dent I saw in his pickup.
But bribe him? Wow. No wonder Murphy looked so flustered. The moment he said it he knew 1) they had him and 2) Favre or Cooke would leak it to the press.
Assuming this is true, well - game, set and match to Favre. You just blinked Packers.
Friday should be fun. Heck, TODAY could be a real riot.
We'll keep you posted.
We stand upon the edge of the the Favre/Green Bay/Training Camp Hurricane and the news out of Green Bay just gets weirder.
Now I have been largely on the Pack's side - I think frankly both sides have behaved poorly but I really felt that the way Favre has handled it has been worse. And that may still hold true, really. I still feel like he has been acting like a prima dona.
All that said, if this report by the Green Bay Press Gazette is true, then they may be more insane than I gave them credit for.
I get they don't want Favre back. But they also held a lot - maybe not all but MOST - of the cards in this thing, especially from a PR standpoint. But to send Mark Murphy to buy Favre off? You're that desperate? Jeez guys.
Go and talk him into working a trade to a team both of you can be happy with. Go and talk to him about being #2 quarterback in camp (which allegedly they did). Explain to him why he is crazy to think you'll release him to play for a Division rival (something he darn well knows, but just doesn't care about). get that list of teams he wants to go to. Show him yours. Compromise. Buy him lunch and repair that dent I saw in his pickup.
But bribe him? Wow. No wonder Murphy looked so flustered. The moment he said it he knew 1) they had him and 2) Favre or Cooke would leak it to the press.
Assuming this is true, well - game, set and match to Favre. You just blinked Packers.
Friday should be fun. Heck, TODAY could be a real riot.
We'll keep you posted.
Wednesday, July 30, 2008
Favre and the rest of the guys....
Is there any other news?
Favre and his agent Bus Cooke met with Pack President Mark Murphy met today - Cooke and Murphy for 9 hours.
Amazing. Murphy didn't look pleased leaving. Brett did - though he only logged two hours. Cooke looked a little smug, but who knows? what were they talking about? Trades? Retirement? Whether Heath Ledger should get an Oscar nod?
I don't know. Friday will be very interesting indeed. I would love to know - for real - what Favre wants. I am not 100% sure he's only after a release. But I'd be curious to know what is really in his head.
Carolina Panthers
DeAngelo Williams has been running with the first team so far - HC John Fox doesn't give starting gigs away without earning it. I still think Jonathan Stewart will get most of the carries, but you shouldn;t be looking at him as anything beyond a 3rd RB with tremendous upside. But anything sooner and you are facing some real risk - as with all rookie RBs.
Cincinatti Bengals
Rudi Johnson is looking very strong in camp - he may end up being a value at the end of the 2nd rounds (and farther back) where he is going now. But don't read too much into the hype yet - he has to hold up over the season and that offensive line still has some large question marks.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Rashard Mendenhall and Willie Parker are still looking like they will split carries. And here's the thing - they seem very happy with that. Parker was ok during the time he split with Bettis - productive overall. You can count on good yardage for him and an uptick of touchdowns, but anything would be better than last year. Mendenhall will probably do all right and vulture some TDs but like Stewart, he won't be reliable enough to warrant more than a #3 spot on your team. But I think he will grow to be a tremendous compliment to Parker as years progress.
That's all for now - remember - in less than an hour and a half - The Thundering Blurb podcast goes LIVE at BlogtalkRadio.com! 9pmEST/6pmPST!
Call in at (718) 506-1722 - or tune in here and chat it up!
Favre and his agent Bus Cooke met with Pack President Mark Murphy met today - Cooke and Murphy for 9 hours.
Amazing. Murphy didn't look pleased leaving. Brett did - though he only logged two hours. Cooke looked a little smug, but who knows? what were they talking about? Trades? Retirement? Whether Heath Ledger should get an Oscar nod?
I don't know. Friday will be very interesting indeed. I would love to know - for real - what Favre wants. I am not 100% sure he's only after a release. But I'd be curious to know what is really in his head.
Carolina Panthers
DeAngelo Williams has been running with the first team so far - HC John Fox doesn't give starting gigs away without earning it. I still think Jonathan Stewart will get most of the carries, but you shouldn;t be looking at him as anything beyond a 3rd RB with tremendous upside. But anything sooner and you are facing some real risk - as with all rookie RBs.
Cincinatti Bengals
Rudi Johnson is looking very strong in camp - he may end up being a value at the end of the 2nd rounds (and farther back) where he is going now. But don't read too much into the hype yet - he has to hold up over the season and that offensive line still has some large question marks.
Pittsburgh Steelers
Rashard Mendenhall and Willie Parker are still looking like they will split carries. And here's the thing - they seem very happy with that. Parker was ok during the time he split with Bettis - productive overall. You can count on good yardage for him and an uptick of touchdowns, but anything would be better than last year. Mendenhall will probably do all right and vulture some TDs but like Stewart, he won't be reliable enough to warrant more than a #3 spot on your team. But I think he will grow to be a tremendous compliment to Parker as years progress.
That's all for now - remember - in less than an hour and a half - The Thundering Blurb podcast goes LIVE at BlogtalkRadio.com! 9pmEST/6pmPST!
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008
FavreWatch 2008
Well, I thought I was done tonight but I guess not.
ProFootballTalk is reporting that New Packers president Mark Murphy is heading to Mississippi to ask Favre NOT to come to camp when he is reinstated - this according to the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
The article is a bit of conjecture in certain instances - and frankly has a severe editorial slant. I would say the Press-Gazette is on the 'Bring Brett Back' bandwagon. So I'm not sure I totally trust their take on things.
As the article states, Favre won't be reinstated until tomorrow at best (Wednesday), the team is not practicing Thursday so Friday is the earliest the Favrenator can show up - I think there could be a few more explanations.
Now I don't have an unnamed source, but I do have my brain here, so let's use it.
Murphy could:
Fact is, any team official SHOULD fly down and talk to Favre. First off, he needs it, clearly. Guys like him need some soft handling sometimes -no right or wrong in it - just a fact. Second, he deserves it. Listen - this text messaging/voice mail crap is teenaged BS - on both sides. Someone needs to go down and work this out with Brett or pull him into an office when he returns. These are adults, not pimply faced teens breaking up with each other over email.
Regardless, I can think of multiple reasons why Murphy is flying down there. Maybe he's going exactly for the reason the Gazette claims. If he is, Brett will tell us about it for sure.
But let's not assume it's the only thing he can achieve down there in Mississippi.
ProFootballTalk is reporting that New Packers president Mark Murphy is heading to Mississippi to ask Favre NOT to come to camp when he is reinstated - this according to the Green Bay Press-Gazette.
The article is a bit of conjecture in certain instances - and frankly has a severe editorial slant. I would say the Press-Gazette is on the 'Bring Brett Back' bandwagon. So I'm not sure I totally trust their take on things.
As the article states, Favre won't be reinstated until tomorrow at best (Wednesday), the team is not practicing Thursday so Friday is the earliest the Favrenator can show up - I think there could be a few more explanations.
Now I don't have an unnamed source, but I do have my brain here, so let's use it.
Murphy could:
- Try to talk Brett into staying retired - it wouldn't work but everyone on both sides is so delusional, I can believe anything....
- Try to talk Brett into a trade - be it Jets, Bucs or any other place. Maybe even just to talk a list out of him, something Favre won't provide....
- Talk to him about how the Qb battle could go if he shows up....
- Tell him he is, without doubt, the backup. And he'd better be ok with it....
Fact is, any team official SHOULD fly down and talk to Favre. First off, he needs it, clearly. Guys like him need some soft handling sometimes -no right or wrong in it - just a fact. Second, he deserves it. Listen - this text messaging/voice mail crap is teenaged BS - on both sides. Someone needs to go down and work this out with Brett or pull him into an office when he returns. These are adults, not pimply faced teens breaking up with each other over email.
Regardless, I can think of multiple reasons why Murphy is flying down there. Maybe he's going exactly for the reason the Gazette claims. If he is, Brett will tell us about it for sure.
But let's not assume it's the only thing he can achieve down there in Mississippi.
FAVRWATCH 2008 Continues
Chris Mortensen of ESPN is reporting that Brett Favre has faxed his reinstatement request to the league office.
Here we go kids - this is going to be very interesting.
Also interesting is this thread in the Footballguys.com Shark Pool where I have been chatting a lot of today.
As I just posted, I am overjoyed I have material for this blog, The Drive Block on Thursday and my new show - The Thundering Blurb - every Wednesday at 6pm PST/9PM EST!
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Here we go kids - this is going to be very interesting.
Also interesting is this thread in the Footballguys.com Shark Pool where I have been chatting a lot of today.
As I just posted, I am overjoyed I have material for this blog, The Drive Block on Thursday and my new show - The Thundering Blurb - every Wednesday at 6pm PST/9PM EST!
/shameless plug
See you with more later!
Morning Stampede
A few early notes -
Jacksonville Jaguars
I've said a few times that tight end Marcedes Lewis will probably get more looks this year than the last few. That was before wideouts started dropping like flies with Porter, Williams and Northcutt hampered by injury. Northcutt is back but now Garrard is giving me cause to continue my Lewis hopes:
Green Bay Packers
Ryan Grant is still holding out and with the Favre-flap (darn, I thought I would get through one of these without that name popping up) who knows when he'll get what he wants if ever. In the meantime, Brandon Jackson is getting a lot of reps and he's been looking good. If Grant keeps holding out and Jackson performs well in the preseason, it will cloud the running back position and make it very hard to recommend one of the two in Fantasy drafts. The Packer running back position will have value, no doubt - but choosing one right now could be tough.
By the way, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel the Packers are looking for a 3rd rounder and a body (preferebly a defensive tackle), not the 1st and 4th or 6th that was bandied about last week. This will get done - if Brett will talk to the teams interested.
St Loius Rams
With Steven Jackson holding out, Antonio Pittman and Brian Leonard are splitting reps, which is about what you'd expect if Jackson was out for an extended amount of time. Like with Jackson/Grant in Green Bay, it is unclear if either back will be a significant Fantasy value long term unless one stood out.
More later
Jacksonville Jaguars
I've said a few times that tight end Marcedes Lewis will probably get more looks this year than the last few. That was before wideouts started dropping like flies with Porter, Williams and Northcutt hampered by injury. Northcutt is back but now Garrard is giving me cause to continue my Lewis hopes:
"Tight ends are usually my favorite targets," Garrard said. "They are reliable and always around the middle. I definitely want to get (Lewis') receptions up and get his play to where he's one of the elite tight ends in the league."He's not on my list of possible #1 Fantasy tight ends, but he could be on his way to becoming a rock solid #2, which hasn't been the case since he entered the league.
(Florida Times Union)
Green Bay Packers
Ryan Grant is still holding out and with the Favre-flap (darn, I thought I would get through one of these without that name popping up) who knows when he'll get what he wants if ever. In the meantime, Brandon Jackson is getting a lot of reps and he's been looking good. If Grant keeps holding out and Jackson performs well in the preseason, it will cloud the running back position and make it very hard to recommend one of the two in Fantasy drafts. The Packer running back position will have value, no doubt - but choosing one right now could be tough.
By the way, according to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel the Packers are looking for a 3rd rounder and a body (preferebly a defensive tackle), not the 1st and 4th or 6th that was bandied about last week. This will get done - if Brett will talk to the teams interested.
St Loius Rams
With Steven Jackson holding out, Antonio Pittman and Brian Leonard are splitting reps, which is about what you'd expect if Jackson was out for an extended amount of time. Like with Jackson/Grant in Green Bay, it is unclear if either back will be a significant Fantasy value long term unless one stood out.
More later
Sunday, July 27, 2008
More Training Camp Notes - now with 50% less Favre
Let's get this out of the way:
MRIs Around the NFL
Asante Samuel had one - the injury to his hammy looks 'Mild'. (Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News) Good news for Philly - a 'push' for Lito Sheppard. Again, Samuel means better numbers (or more opportunity for Sheppard) but no Samuel means leverage in contract talks.
Deuce McAllister's was negative - but like I said yesterday, it's bad that he needs one already. Once again, I invite you to hop on board the Pierre Thomas Train before it leaves the Station!
I think that's it for MRIs today - maybe we can do another turn tomorrow?
Bears Lock Hester Up
According to the Chicago Sun Times Da Bears have signed kick return monster and unproven wide receiver Devin Hester to a 4 year 30 Million dollar extension, $15 mill of which is guarenteed. Now, as I said the other day, they HAD to make him happy - right now he's the whole offense. BUT - and this is critical - he has yet to prove that he's worth the money they just gave him. I mean, on the one hand, he is, as he's the most dynamic kick returner maybe ever. But on the other, what if he sucks out loud at receiver? Like the last phenomenal kick returner who was mediocre as a pass catcher - Dante Hall?
They had to pay him - but I don't know this was money well spent. Hester has to put it together as a pass catcher now.
Of course if he does - will he back with his hand out again?
BTW - for Fantasy purposes, let me reiterate that no Bear WR is worth more than a flier, unless you get good points for kick returns in which case, Hester is your man.
Ashlie Lelie Does What he Does Best - Gets Hurt
For those of you hoping Lelie would be the #3 guy in SF and end up with some Sleeper value - the Santa Rosa Press Democrat is reporting that Lelie is Day-to-Day with a left calf sprain. The guy has never been sturdy and with Battle looking to be the guy behind Isaac Bruce and Bryant Johnson, Lelie had a huge hill to climb. Looks like he fell off it.
Every day is a day he loses ground. You want a sleeper, try looking at Jason Hill, who has done some damage in Camps. Of course, rumor has it the 49rs will not be using a lot of 3 WR sets (utilizing Frank Gore and Vernon Davis as targets instead) so looking for a productive #3 wide reciever in San Fran might be a little like spitting in the wind.
That's all for now - -
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- Favre to Jets looks dead (rumor is Favre no likey Gang Green)
- Favre to Bucs looks possible
- No Favre at Packers Camp today
MRIs Around the NFL
Asante Samuel had one - the injury to his hammy looks 'Mild'. (Philadelphia Inquirer & Daily News) Good news for Philly - a 'push' for Lito Sheppard. Again, Samuel means better numbers (or more opportunity for Sheppard) but no Samuel means leverage in contract talks.
Deuce McAllister's was negative - but like I said yesterday, it's bad that he needs one already. Once again, I invite you to hop on board the Pierre Thomas Train before it leaves the Station!
I think that's it for MRIs today - maybe we can do another turn tomorrow?
Bears Lock Hester Up
According to the Chicago Sun Times Da Bears have signed kick return monster and unproven wide receiver Devin Hester to a 4 year 30 Million dollar extension, $15 mill of which is guarenteed. Now, as I said the other day, they HAD to make him happy - right now he's the whole offense. BUT - and this is critical - he has yet to prove that he's worth the money they just gave him. I mean, on the one hand, he is, as he's the most dynamic kick returner maybe ever. But on the other, what if he sucks out loud at receiver? Like the last phenomenal kick returner who was mediocre as a pass catcher - Dante Hall?
They had to pay him - but I don't know this was money well spent. Hester has to put it together as a pass catcher now.
Of course if he does - will he back with his hand out again?
BTW - for Fantasy purposes, let me reiterate that no Bear WR is worth more than a flier, unless you get good points for kick returns in which case, Hester is your man.
Ashlie Lelie Does What he Does Best - Gets Hurt
For those of you hoping Lelie would be the #3 guy in SF and end up with some Sleeper value - the Santa Rosa Press Democrat is reporting that Lelie is Day-to-Day with a left calf sprain. The guy has never been sturdy and with Battle looking to be the guy behind Isaac Bruce and Bryant Johnson, Lelie had a huge hill to climb. Looks like he fell off it.
Every day is a day he loses ground. You want a sleeper, try looking at Jason Hill, who has done some damage in Camps. Of course, rumor has it the 49rs will not be using a lot of 3 WR sets (utilizing Frank Gore and Vernon Davis as targets instead) so looking for a productive #3 wide reciever in San Fran might be a little like spitting in the wind.
That's all for now - -
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Saturday, July 26, 2008
More Training Camp News and More Favrewatch 2008
The Brett Favre saga continues. It looked for a time as if the NY Jets were close to making something happen but according to the Newark Star-Ledger chances now seem remote that the Cheese State Gunslinger will play in the Meadowlands this season for Gang Green. How remote - well if you click on the linked article and read the web address in your menu bar the link ends with:
favre_to_jets_is_absolutely_de.html
I assume the 'de' starts the word DEAD. While I won't go that far (and the title says 'very remote') it isn't looking pretty. Now is that a Favre thing or will the Pack not budge off the request for a 1st round pick (a price way too high for the Jets in my opinion)? We may never know. But as a wise man once said - it ain't over until it's over.
Favre didn't file his paperwork for reinstatement with the league yet - though he could fax it in at any time - so we won't see him Sunday and maybe Monday.
Stay tuned!
Asante Samuel Strains Hammy, set for MRI
Samuel strained his right hamstring this mornign at practice - according to NFL.com, he'll have an MRI tomorrow to see the extent of the injury. I was just saying the other day how Lito Sheppard might benefit from setting up across from Samuel this year - but given Lito wants some new money, he might benefit in different ways if Samuel is out for any amount of time.
In other MRI News -
Saints Running Back Deuce McAllister Already Had One
McAllister missed Saturday's practice after his knee swelled up post practice on Friday. The New Orleans Times-Picayune says the MRI was negative and revealed no structural damage but you can't be very happy that after a handful of practices, he already had some doubts. I've been touting Pierre Thomas for a while now and I think he'll compliment Bush very well at some point - whether that point is imminent could be debated but McAllister has now had both knees rebuilt and the Saints were looking at LaMont Jordan (I'll get to him in a second) so they can't be all that sure about Deuce either. Thomas played well in limited action and I think is a sneaky play in Fantasy Leagues this year - it ain't just me and if you don't want to take my word for it, listen to Brian Baldinger back in May. All I'm saying is, Baldy knows his stuff (even if I think he's way overstating his case regarding Darren McFadden), so think on it.
Speaking of LaMont Jordan -
The Pats Swooped in and Signed Him
Almost as soon as Jordan was released, Adam Shefter was saying to watch out for the Pats. And he was right. I don't know if I am that worried about Maroney now that this has happened - frankly Jordan is turning 30 and wasn't as effective as everyone thought he would be when he left the Jets a few years ago, though much of that wasn't his fault. He's more likely a security deposit on Kevin Faulk than Maroney. I don't expect huge things from him and he shouldn't be drafted in a Fantasy League as anything but a deep back up. But I also am not worried about Maroney and he should remain a #2 or 3 back for you.
All that said, from a practical NFL standpoint, good signing. Jordan will fit in well there I think, the Pats can turn careers around and revitalize them (see: Dillon, Corey and Moss, Randy) and frankly they won't expect him to carry the team so there will be less pressure than he's had in the past.
Finally - for this edition -
The Arizona Cardinals Might Use Kurt Warner in a Specialist Position Again
This would just kill the value of either QB in a Fantasy League - and I have said this before, but it's a terrible idea for the developement of Leinart. HC Whisenhunt has called Leinart the starter, but 'won't rule out' using Warner like they did prior to Party Time Matt's collarbone breaking last season - as the 'no-huddle' guy.
Listen, either Leinart is your Qb or he isn't. Enough is enough. A quarterback needs to be in a rhythm during a game - throwing one in on special sequences is ridiculous. This soudns worse than when Romeo Crennel figured out his starting Qb last year by flipping a quarter. And I think HE was joking at least.
I'm not saying Leinart should win the job - I have no idea, and frankly I lean towards him beign a bust as he seems to spend more time beer bonging with nubile young co-eds than practicing or working on his game in the off-season. But he could be working when I don't see him. Or he could be that gifted. But whatever - slapping Warner in during certain (and might I add pressure packed) moments of a game smells of a lack of confidence. Ify our franchise Qb can't hack it when you need him most.... well, you need to question if he should be your franchise QB. Pulling him can't be doing his confidence any favors and I am adamantly opposed to it. Either go with Matty L or with Warner. enough waffling.
Warner has been told it's an open competition though Whisenhunt says it's Leinart's job. Further messy communication or motivation ploy? I can't tell, you guys can let me know.
That's it for now. More later and regularly M-Fri as we swing into Training Camp full force.
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favre_to_jets_is_absolutely_de.html
I assume the 'de' starts the word DEAD. While I won't go that far (and the title says 'very remote') it isn't looking pretty. Now is that a Favre thing or will the Pack not budge off the request for a 1st round pick (a price way too high for the Jets in my opinion)? We may never know. But as a wise man once said - it ain't over until it's over.
Favre didn't file his paperwork for reinstatement with the league yet - though he could fax it in at any time - so we won't see him Sunday and maybe Monday.
Stay tuned!
Asante Samuel Strains Hammy, set for MRI
Samuel strained his right hamstring this mornign at practice - according to NFL.com, he'll have an MRI tomorrow to see the extent of the injury. I was just saying the other day how Lito Sheppard might benefit from setting up across from Samuel this year - but given Lito wants some new money, he might benefit in different ways if Samuel is out for any amount of time.
In other MRI News -
Saints Running Back Deuce McAllister Already Had One
McAllister missed Saturday's practice after his knee swelled up post practice on Friday. The New Orleans Times-Picayune says the MRI was negative and revealed no structural damage but you can't be very happy that after a handful of practices, he already had some doubts. I've been touting Pierre Thomas for a while now and I think he'll compliment Bush very well at some point - whether that point is imminent could be debated but McAllister has now had both knees rebuilt and the Saints were looking at LaMont Jordan (I'll get to him in a second) so they can't be all that sure about Deuce either. Thomas played well in limited action and I think is a sneaky play in Fantasy Leagues this year - it ain't just me and if you don't want to take my word for it, listen to Brian Baldinger back in May. All I'm saying is, Baldy knows his stuff (even if I think he's way overstating his case regarding Darren McFadden), so think on it.
Speaking of LaMont Jordan -
The Pats Swooped in and Signed Him
Almost as soon as Jordan was released, Adam Shefter was saying to watch out for the Pats. And he was right. I don't know if I am that worried about Maroney now that this has happened - frankly Jordan is turning 30 and wasn't as effective as everyone thought he would be when he left the Jets a few years ago, though much of that wasn't his fault. He's more likely a security deposit on Kevin Faulk than Maroney. I don't expect huge things from him and he shouldn't be drafted in a Fantasy League as anything but a deep back up. But I also am not worried about Maroney and he should remain a #2 or 3 back for you.
All that said, from a practical NFL standpoint, good signing. Jordan will fit in well there I think, the Pats can turn careers around and revitalize them (see: Dillon, Corey and Moss, Randy) and frankly they won't expect him to carry the team so there will be less pressure than he's had in the past.
Finally - for this edition -
The Arizona Cardinals Might Use Kurt Warner in a Specialist Position Again
This would just kill the value of either QB in a Fantasy League - and I have said this before, but it's a terrible idea for the developement of Leinart. HC Whisenhunt has called Leinart the starter, but 'won't rule out' using Warner like they did prior to Party Time Matt's collarbone breaking last season - as the 'no-huddle' guy.
Listen, either Leinart is your Qb or he isn't. Enough is enough. A quarterback needs to be in a rhythm during a game - throwing one in on special sequences is ridiculous. This soudns worse than when Romeo Crennel figured out his starting Qb last year by flipping a quarter. And I think HE was joking at least.
I'm not saying Leinart should win the job - I have no idea, and frankly I lean towards him beign a bust as he seems to spend more time beer bonging with nubile young co-eds than practicing or working on his game in the off-season. But he could be working when I don't see him. Or he could be that gifted. But whatever - slapping Warner in during certain (and might I add pressure packed) moments of a game smells of a lack of confidence. Ify our franchise Qb can't hack it when you need him most.... well, you need to question if he should be your franchise QB. Pulling him can't be doing his confidence any favors and I am adamantly opposed to it. Either go with Matty L or with Warner. enough waffling.
Warner has been told it's an open competition though Whisenhunt says it's Leinart's job. Further messy communication or motivation ploy? I can't tell, you guys can let me know.
That's it for now. More later and regularly M-Fri as we swing into Training Camp full force.
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Friday, July 25, 2008
FavreWatch 2008
I feel like I need to be standing in a downpour with no umbrella, no hat and no jacket discussing flooding - which is a reference only my fellow SoCal folks might get.
With Packers camp a day away, the Packers are allegedly trying to finish the Favre saga (or part 1, as you and I both know this story will never completely go away).
ProFootballTalk is reporting that Jay Glazer at FoxSports is saying that the Tampa Bay Bucs have been given permission to talk to his Favreness to work out a trade. This comes on the heels of an earlier ESPN report that my beloved Jets were given permission to talk to him.
It seems like the Packers are trying their best to work this out prior to tomorrow and it comes down to this - does Brett want to play or play for the Packers? If he wants to play and (aside from contending) doesn't care where, we'll see a trade I think sometime in the next week or so. If he wants to remain a Packer though - and he might - all he needs to do is show up in camp and play like he did in 2007.
Of course, that's a mess for the Pack, no doubt, but that's kinda where it stands. If Favre really is the complete prima donna he has appeared to be at many moments in this ridiculous mess, then he could go to camp, sulk and try to make them release him or make a stupid trade to somewhere like the Vikes. I'm hoping that isn't the case and the last few weeks are merely a bunch of bad moves by someone who has let his passion run away with him.
As for the Bucs vs the Jets -
Favre would certainly pick up the Tampa offense a little quicker, though the West Coast the Jets run wouldn't be a stretch. HC Mangini says he's happy with the QBs on their roster yada yada but 1) that's coachspeak and is worth less than the current value of the US Dollar and 2) he's on the hotseat, the Jets spent LOADs of cash to win now so 3) they would LOVE to have Favre. As much as it would screw with the Clemens/Pennington Debate - I think they would care. They can sort that out next year in a way I think the packers don't feel they can.
Tampa Bay would be good as well, and not just for the aforementioned ability for Favre to get the offense quick. While the recievers aren't as good (aside from Galloway - I'll put Coles/Cotchery against any Bucs combo) Gruden works magic with older QBs. He could be very successful there if the Oline holds together (you could say that last part abotu the Jets as well). He could mentor Josh Johnson as I think he's a few years away from playing, although we've seen how that worked out in Green Bay.
I think either of these would be a very good fit and I think if Brett wants to play - and wants to gracefully exit the mess he has created most of - he should work things out with one of those teams.
And soon.
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With Packers camp a day away, the Packers are allegedly trying to finish the Favre saga (or part 1, as you and I both know this story will never completely go away).
ProFootballTalk is reporting that Jay Glazer at FoxSports is saying that the Tampa Bay Bucs have been given permission to talk to his Favreness to work out a trade. This comes on the heels of an earlier ESPN report that my beloved Jets were given permission to talk to him.
It seems like the Packers are trying their best to work this out prior to tomorrow and it comes down to this - does Brett want to play or play for the Packers? If he wants to play and (aside from contending) doesn't care where, we'll see a trade I think sometime in the next week or so. If he wants to remain a Packer though - and he might - all he needs to do is show up in camp and play like he did in 2007.
Of course, that's a mess for the Pack, no doubt, but that's kinda where it stands. If Favre really is the complete prima donna he has appeared to be at many moments in this ridiculous mess, then he could go to camp, sulk and try to make them release him or make a stupid trade to somewhere like the Vikes. I'm hoping that isn't the case and the last few weeks are merely a bunch of bad moves by someone who has let his passion run away with him.
As for the Bucs vs the Jets -
Favre would certainly pick up the Tampa offense a little quicker, though the West Coast the Jets run wouldn't be a stretch. HC Mangini says he's happy with the QBs on their roster yada yada but 1) that's coachspeak and is worth less than the current value of the US Dollar and 2) he's on the hotseat, the Jets spent LOADs of cash to win now so 3) they would LOVE to have Favre. As much as it would screw with the Clemens/Pennington Debate - I think they would care. They can sort that out next year in a way I think the packers don't feel they can.
Tampa Bay would be good as well, and not just for the aforementioned ability for Favre to get the offense quick. While the recievers aren't as good (aside from Galloway - I'll put Coles/Cotchery against any Bucs combo) Gruden works magic with older QBs. He could be very successful there if the Oline holds together (you could say that last part abotu the Jets as well). He could mentor Josh Johnson as I think he's a few years away from playing, although we've seen how that worked out in Green Bay.
I think either of these would be a very good fit and I think if Brett wants to play - and wants to gracefully exit the mess he has created most of - he should work things out with one of those teams.
And soon.
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Thursday, July 10, 2008
Brett Favre Soapbox Time II
Hey folks.
So when we left my last rant, I was talking about how (in my opinion of course) it seemed that people felt the need to tear Aaron Rodgers down while proposing that Favre should be allowed to play again. And how unnecessary it is because all you really need to do to make your case is point to Favre's stats.
Now, as easy as that case to make may be, Green Bay isn't seeing it that way. And as promised, here is my take on why.
How many times have we been through this retiring/not retiring dance with Favre now? Three times or four, I've lost count.
Well, I can guarantee you the Packers management hasn't. In fact, there was a nearly audible sigh of relief when he finally called it a day this winter. Not so much because he was leaving, but more so that he had not only made a decision, but done it in a timely manner.
In other words, the Pack knew early for once whether Favre was returning. They were left with options. Sign a vet. Draft a top stud. Trade for one of the above. Roll with Rodgers.
WHAT they did wasn't as important as the very fact that for once they had choice. For the last few years, they couldn't move on because Favre couldn't make up his mind.
Now, I'm fine with Favre's misgivings. I cannot imagine how hard it must be to sit at home hearing about OTAs from friends still playing, catching reports on NFLN. Maybe even harder could have been the news that not only was Green Bay not in shambles after his departure but they were confident. That must have felt weird to him.
Meanwhile, Green Bay was indeed moving on and confidently. Right or wrong, they embraced the Rodgers era, backing him up for the most part with a rookie draft pick. They were moving on.
It had to feel weird for all involved.
But here we are, just short of Training Camp and BANG - we're back where we are every Green Bay off-season.
The Brett Favre waffle. Again, I don't blame the man. Not a bit. And as I have said before, I am positive he can still bring it . And that the Packers - in my opinion though I am not alone - have a better shot at winning a Super Bowl with Favre at the helm. That's the facts - Rodgers could be a great QB. Favre we already know is a great QB.
But the Packers have to be wondering: If we take him back, if we replace Rodgers (thereby pretty much assuring Rodgers leaves as a Free Agent in two years) and say we don't win a Super Bowl - will we just keep doing this dance?
When is enough, enough? For the Packers, now enough is enough. They want to know if Rodgers is the guy or if they need to rely on Brohm. Or if they need to do something else to solidify the future.
Pundits like to rail about how the team shouldn't care about the future - the future is NOW dammit and Favre will win now! But I think the team disagrees. Green Bay is very young at a few positions - the team likely feels it has a responsibility to the future to know whether the QBs they have will cut it.
I bet if Favre hadn't spent the last three years waffling, we'd see a much different reaction from the franchise. I bet if Favre had been stalwart in his decisions prior and come back and played each year with no real drama, this would be a much different situation. I am willing to be that if he hadn't done this act for the past several years, the Packers would have said 'Aw, Favre's always been straight with us. Never left us twisting in the wind. He made a mistake. Let's help him out.' But he hasn't been that guy, leaving the team hanging well into the off-season more than once. And there are no guarantees he won't go through this again and again, finally leaving the team in a lurch if he drags it on into OTAs and past all the best free agents and draft picks, only to call it quits.
I don't think it's a fair reaction (though understandable). I think Favre has earned some leeway. But I look at the situation and think that the Packers are well within their rights to choose to move on. Now, they may have to activate him and then it gets ugly. But let's save that for another day when/if it happens.
Back to the here and now: Yes, Favre likely gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to win short term. But he has been inconsistent and contradicting every off-season for the last three years or so. The franchise doesn't seem to ever know where they stand. At the end of the day, the team seems to feel like if Favre can't make a decision on this, they'll do it for him.
Right or wrong, I really can't blame them.
So when we left my last rant, I was talking about how (in my opinion of course) it seemed that people felt the need to tear Aaron Rodgers down while proposing that Favre should be allowed to play again. And how unnecessary it is because all you really need to do to make your case is point to Favre's stats.
Now, as easy as that case to make may be, Green Bay isn't seeing it that way. And as promised, here is my take on why.
How many times have we been through this retiring/not retiring dance with Favre now? Three times or four, I've lost count.
Well, I can guarantee you the Packers management hasn't. In fact, there was a nearly audible sigh of relief when he finally called it a day this winter. Not so much because he was leaving, but more so that he had not only made a decision, but done it in a timely manner.
In other words, the Pack knew early for once whether Favre was returning. They were left with options. Sign a vet. Draft a top stud. Trade for one of the above. Roll with Rodgers.
WHAT they did wasn't as important as the very fact that for once they had choice. For the last few years, they couldn't move on because Favre couldn't make up his mind.
Now, I'm fine with Favre's misgivings. I cannot imagine how hard it must be to sit at home hearing about OTAs from friends still playing, catching reports on NFLN. Maybe even harder could have been the news that not only was Green Bay not in shambles after his departure but they were confident. That must have felt weird to him.
Meanwhile, Green Bay was indeed moving on and confidently. Right or wrong, they embraced the Rodgers era, backing him up for the most part with a rookie draft pick. They were moving on.
It had to feel weird for all involved.
But here we are, just short of Training Camp and BANG - we're back where we are every Green Bay off-season.
The Brett Favre waffle. Again, I don't blame the man. Not a bit. And as I have said before, I am positive he can still bring it . And that the Packers - in my opinion though I am not alone - have a better shot at winning a Super Bowl with Favre at the helm. That's the facts - Rodgers could be a great QB. Favre we already know is a great QB.
But the Packers have to be wondering: If we take him back, if we replace Rodgers (thereby pretty much assuring Rodgers leaves as a Free Agent in two years) and say we don't win a Super Bowl - will we just keep doing this dance?
When is enough, enough? For the Packers, now enough is enough. They want to know if Rodgers is the guy or if they need to rely on Brohm. Or if they need to do something else to solidify the future.
Pundits like to rail about how the team shouldn't care about the future - the future is NOW dammit and Favre will win now! But I think the team disagrees. Green Bay is very young at a few positions - the team likely feels it has a responsibility to the future to know whether the QBs they have will cut it.
I bet if Favre hadn't spent the last three years waffling, we'd see a much different reaction from the franchise. I bet if Favre had been stalwart in his decisions prior and come back and played each year with no real drama, this would be a much different situation. I am willing to be that if he hadn't done this act for the past several years, the Packers would have said 'Aw, Favre's always been straight with us. Never left us twisting in the wind. He made a mistake. Let's help him out.' But he hasn't been that guy, leaving the team hanging well into the off-season more than once. And there are no guarantees he won't go through this again and again, finally leaving the team in a lurch if he drags it on into OTAs and past all the best free agents and draft picks, only to call it quits.
I don't think it's a fair reaction (though understandable). I think Favre has earned some leeway. But I look at the situation and think that the Packers are well within their rights to choose to move on. Now, they may have to activate him and then it gets ugly. But let's save that for another day when/if it happens.
Back to the here and now: Yes, Favre likely gives the Green Bay Packers the best chance to win short term. But he has been inconsistent and contradicting every off-season for the last three years or so. The franchise doesn't seem to ever know where they stand. At the end of the day, the team seems to feel like if Favre can't make a decision on this, they'll do it for him.
Right or wrong, I really can't blame them.
Tuesday, July 8, 2008
Brett Favre Soapbox Time
So I just need to get this off my chest and, well, that's part of what this blog is for.
Let me start off by declaring several things -
Cheer for the Pack to take Brett Back all you want, but lay off Rodgers.
It's not his fault Favre has played so well that Rodgers has sniffed all of three games. It is also not his fault that Favre is usually so healthy that again, he's seen significant action only a handful of times.
Yes, he's had two freaky injuries. Yes, he doesn't have Favre's arm.
Yes, Rodgers is monumentally unproven and the momentum he has is hinging on one excellent half of football against Dallas last season.
But enough is enough.
The fact is - as has been pointed out - we don't know enough about what kind of QB Rodgers is. But again, it's not his fault that's the case. Heck, even Steve Young saw some time before he took over for Joe Montana. Rodgers hasn't had that chance.
And don't throw Brian Brohm at me as a case for 'Rodgers clearly doesn't have the confidence of the organization'. They drafted Brohm becuase they had NO BACKUP. They did not address the back-up quarterback situation with a vet and they needed someone.
Could Brohm also step in long term? Sure. He could take over if Rodgers continues to be consistently inconsistent. But I don't think that Brohm being drafted means Rodgers is out. I don't believe it damns Rodgers as expendible.
Again, I think in a vacuum, Favre at quarterback is the best hope for the Pack to win a Championship. And if he wants back they really need to talk to him.
But some writers out there are making it seem like Rodgers is twirling his moustache and laughing while saying 'You're finished Brett Favre - this is MY TEAM NOW!' I'm pretty sure at this point he would just like to know if he has his job or not and if Favre will ever make a permanant decision.
You don't need to make your case for Favre's return by trashing Rodgers at every turn. All you really need to do is point at Favre's career.
That makes the case all by itself.
I'll be back to tell you why I think the Packers are having such a hard time with this another time.
Let me start off by declaring several things -
- Brett Favre is a great quarterback who can still bring it every weekend.
- The Packers are closer to winning a Super Bowl with him at the helm.
- I'm sick of all the beating on Aaron Rodgers.
Cheer for the Pack to take Brett Back all you want, but lay off Rodgers.
It's not his fault Favre has played so well that Rodgers has sniffed all of three games. It is also not his fault that Favre is usually so healthy that again, he's seen significant action only a handful of times.
Yes, he's had two freaky injuries. Yes, he doesn't have Favre's arm.
Yes, Rodgers is monumentally unproven and the momentum he has is hinging on one excellent half of football against Dallas last season.
But enough is enough.
The fact is - as has been pointed out - we don't know enough about what kind of QB Rodgers is. But again, it's not his fault that's the case. Heck, even Steve Young saw some time before he took over for Joe Montana. Rodgers hasn't had that chance.
And don't throw Brian Brohm at me as a case for 'Rodgers clearly doesn't have the confidence of the organization'. They drafted Brohm becuase they had NO BACKUP. They did not address the back-up quarterback situation with a vet and they needed someone.
Could Brohm also step in long term? Sure. He could take over if Rodgers continues to be consistently inconsistent. But I don't think that Brohm being drafted means Rodgers is out. I don't believe it damns Rodgers as expendible.
Again, I think in a vacuum, Favre at quarterback is the best hope for the Pack to win a Championship. And if he wants back they really need to talk to him.
But some writers out there are making it seem like Rodgers is twirling his moustache and laughing while saying 'You're finished Brett Favre - this is MY TEAM NOW!' I'm pretty sure at this point he would just like to know if he has his job or not and if Favre will ever make a permanant decision.
You don't need to make your case for Favre's return by trashing Rodgers at every turn. All you really need to do is point at Favre's career.
That makes the case all by itself.
I'll be back to tell you why I think the Packers are having such a hard time with this another time.
Wednesday, July 2, 2008
Favre vs the Energizer Bunny - who wins?
Ho Ho Holy Schniekies.
So ESPN's Chris Mortenson is reporting that Brett Favre is once again thinking about playing. This follows this notice on former NFL Personnel guy Mike Lombardi's blog about the same thing.
If it were just ESPN, I might raise an eyebrow and take a wait and see attitude. I mean, ESPN has it's hooks into a lot of things, but sometimes they tend to throw stuff against the wall to see if it sticks - or at least that's how it felt a lot of last season.
But backed by Lombardi (or actually following in the wake of Lombardi's post) who has some tremendous links to the NFL still, I have to give it more credence.
And is it a shock? It took Favre years to actually make a decision to retire. Of course it follows he's still not sure.
My 3 year old is more decisive when it comes down to it. And I don't mean that completely snarky. It's just that Favre really doesn't know what he wants and hasn't for years.
Now, as others have pointed out, this is a really sticky wicket, if true. The Packers own the rights to Favre, and if he comes back he's theirs. But do they want to move on anyway? I mean, how long has Rodgers waited? And now he seems to be ready and Favre comes back?
The fans would likely want Favre. The coaching staff might as well. The players... that's a tough call but would it be a shock if they preferred the known quantity over the unknown?
What a mess. You know, I respect Favre. Heckuva player, seems to be a heckuva guy. But he needs to get himself together. I thought it was pretty unfair how long he would drag this out every single off-season for years to begin with.
I think this is even more unfair than that. I respect that he still has the desire. That's great. I just regret that the whole team keeps having to get wrung out every time Favre changes his mind.
We'll keep you posted....
So ESPN's Chris Mortenson is reporting that Brett Favre is once again thinking about playing. This follows this notice on former NFL Personnel guy Mike Lombardi's blog about the same thing.
If it were just ESPN, I might raise an eyebrow and take a wait and see attitude. I mean, ESPN has it's hooks into a lot of things, but sometimes they tend to throw stuff against the wall to see if it sticks - or at least that's how it felt a lot of last season.
But backed by Lombardi (or actually following in the wake of Lombardi's post) who has some tremendous links to the NFL still, I have to give it more credence.
And is it a shock? It took Favre years to actually make a decision to retire. Of course it follows he's still not sure.
My 3 year old is more decisive when it comes down to it. And I don't mean that completely snarky. It's just that Favre really doesn't know what he wants and hasn't for years.
Now, as others have pointed out, this is a really sticky wicket, if true. The Packers own the rights to Favre, and if he comes back he's theirs. But do they want to move on anyway? I mean, how long has Rodgers waited? And now he seems to be ready and Favre comes back?
The fans would likely want Favre. The coaching staff might as well. The players... that's a tough call but would it be a shock if they preferred the known quantity over the unknown?
What a mess. You know, I respect Favre. Heckuva player, seems to be a heckuva guy. But he needs to get himself together. I thought it was pretty unfair how long he would drag this out every single off-season for years to begin with.
I think this is even more unfair than that. I respect that he still has the desire. That's great. I just regret that the whole team keeps having to get wrung out every time Favre changes his mind.
We'll keep you posted....
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